Posts by Anna Marina

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I bought these two books out garage saleing

by mickbobcat in

the truth that leads to eternal life at a church rummage sale.

1968 printing and a 74 printing of god's eternal purpose now triumphing for mens good.

i know the truth book has some things in it that are a bit damning.

Anna Marina

If you are talking books - I have invested in a book called Agents of Discord Deprogramming, Pseudo-Science and the American Anticult Movement by Anson Shupe and Susan E. Darnell. It is a brilliant book and draws attention to the problem dealing with new religious movements/cults - its an American/European thing. In law the problem of coming down effectively against cults is that you are allowed freedom of religion but when people disagree with a new religious movement (and call it damaging), is it a secular issue or a theological one? If its secular why are you talking about religion?

If it's religious (and particularly if America) there's little the Government can do because of the First Amendment which protects freedom of religion.

Also do cults carry out mind control? If yes, why do people leave? Shows the issue isn't mind control. But it could be mind manipulation. Then you get back to the issue of is this a secular or a theological problem?

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New Song by Grant Davis - PIMO

by Anna Marina in

this is a brilliant new song by grant davis who did the trolley/whiskey song with kevin mcfree.. it is called physically in menatlly out.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fys108g25ju.

Anna Marina

Grant is a nice guy. I am glad you've enjoyed listening to his work. I find the lyrics very moving and know someone who has been in this sitation and watched as the whole family just walked away.

People have left this cult damaged but I'm seeing people come out shaken but ok. And as they find us out here waiting for them, they are so happy.

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JW's Not Members anymore but Individuals

by pistolpete in

i've been waiting for someone to post this and i've haven't seen it yet, perhaps i overlooked it since i don't visit that often.. but here is the link to the discussion.

in it you will find letters and links to this new light.

whether it's true or not, please verify.. as of .

Anna Marina

Just sayin'

(Matthew 18:20) . . .For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.. . .

(John 17:11) . . .“Also, I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world and I am coming to you. Holy Father, watch over them on account of your own name which you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are. . .

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New Song by Grant Davis - PIMO

by Anna Marina in

this is a brilliant new song by grant davis who did the trolley/whiskey song with kevin mcfree.. it is called physically in menatlly out.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fys108g25ju.

Anna Marina

This is a brilliant new song by Grant Davis who did the trolley/whiskey song with Kevin McFree.

It is called Physically In Menatlly Out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fys108g25JU

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Is There a Higher Conscious

by LetTheTruthBeKnown in

most of the individuals here from what i have read have gravitated to believing in evolution for various reasons and no longer have a belief in a creator.. the questions begs though, is there a higher conscious in the universe than mankind's.

i am sure everyone agrees that animals are conscious, but to what extent can they reason?.

here is the link to dr. rupert sheldrake's - is the sun conscious.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfhsobpja8a.

Anna Marina

You assume wrong Crofty. And your definition of morality is your own not God's. Therefore by what authority can you even call it moral, anymore that Watchtower calls its standards moral by allowing none to disagree. But I disagree both with them and you.

And you slander Jesus Christ and his Father.

John 13:12-16

So when He had washed their feet, and taken His garments and reclined at the table again, He said to them, "Do you know what I have done to you? "You call Me Teacher and Lord; and you are right, for so I am. "If I then, the Lord and the Teacher, washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet. "For I gave you an example that you also should do as I did to you. "Truly, truly, I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.

Matthew 20:26,27

"It is not this way among you, but whoever wishes to become great among you shall be your servant, and whoever wishes to be first among you shall be your slave;

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Meanwhile over at exjw reddit

by nowwhat? in

it has no value at all.

it consists of 99% dumb, confused kids asking stupid hypothetical questions.

Anna Marina

Jared Kushner buys WT buildings, he is Trump's son-in-law.

Netanyahu couldn't do a deal with Obama, then Trump gets in.

Hmm seems to have a bit to do with Watchtower and Israel.

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Is There a Higher Conscious

by LetTheTruthBeKnown in

most of the individuals here from what i have read have gravitated to believing in evolution for various reasons and no longer have a belief in a creator.. the questions begs though, is there a higher conscious in the universe than mankind's.

i am sure everyone agrees that animals are conscious, but to what extent can they reason?.

here is the link to dr. rupert sheldrake's - is the sun conscious.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfhsobpja8a.

Anna Marina

Well Crofty not sure what you mean by moral. Maybe you are using a bit of semantic shift there. When I use the term moral, I mean, moral as in Christian morality. By that standard, no I am not more moral that Jesus and I am certain you aren't either. But just like the Watchtower you have your way of life and your opinion.

I assume you have read the Bible or parts of it. Jehovah would never approve that which is harmful to those who love him and their fellow man. But just as a liar can frame an innocent man, so it is possible to frame the True God.

God has to stand up to liars and Jesus expressed the truth.

And Finkel - I get the impression you know enough about the Bible to make your own mind up on that one. My view, Jesus' words always prove to be the best source of guidance. Best to read his words yourself, think about them and apply them to your own situation. Given their success I have confidence that John 1:1 is true.

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Is There a Higher Conscious

by LetTheTruthBeKnown in

most of the individuals here from what i have read have gravitated to believing in evolution for various reasons and no longer have a belief in a creator.. the questions begs though, is there a higher conscious in the universe than mankind's.

i am sure everyone agrees that animals are conscious, but to what extent can they reason?.

here is the link to dr. rupert sheldrake's - is the sun conscious.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfhsobpja8a.

Anna Marina

LV101 - I am not going to quibble Trinity - bottom line - what values does a person live by? For me Jesus gets the massive thumbs up. The values of Jesus Christ are all good and it was he who did not sin and that which sin was, was revealed by the Mosaic Law.

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Another suspect JW experience

by neat blue dog in

the latest jwdotorg experience tells of using video conferencing to hold congregation meetings inside jail for prisoners.

it says that the prison director himself and his wife have also started attending the zoom meetings and quotes him as saying.

“these meetings are of great importance for the spiritual and emotional well-being of the prisoners during this period of social isolation.

Anna Marina

In UK the Yorkshire Ripper has considered turning to Islamic gangs to get protection in jail.

“If you are a child killer, rapist or a mass murderer, the only gang who are going to let you in are the Muslims but you have to convert to Islam.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/707126/yorkshire-ripper-islam-muslim-convert-prison-peter-sutcliffe

Anyone noticed how the latest public WT is aimed at people who are Middle Eastern? The front cover has a woman wearing a headscarf and jacket (maybe suggesting a student) and pic on page 10 shows a beared (but not too bearded) man praying.

A large part of WT beliefs come from something called Theo Sufism. Sufism is a branch of the Muslim religion.

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Is There a Higher Conscious

by LetTheTruthBeKnown in

most of the individuals here from what i have read have gravitated to believing in evolution for various reasons and no longer have a belief in a creator.. the questions begs though, is there a higher conscious in the universe than mankind's.

i am sure everyone agrees that animals are conscious, but to what extent can they reason?.

here is the link to dr. rupert sheldrake's - is the sun conscious.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfhsobpja8a.

Anna Marina

John 1:1

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God